My take on the moral discussion about zoophilia. (totally not clickbait)
Hello, fellow internet explorers!
I want to preface this by telling you to leave if you don't want to read shit tier philosophy. I'm writing this for fun.to write down an amalgamation of thoughts and ideas that have been brewing in my head for a couple of yearsI
reason that I became a zoo I always loved animals and nature - and . rom early in my childhood, I viewed all living things equally marvelous and beautiful, and I considered animals to have equal rights to humans.
I love animals - and nature, art, exercise, food, cloths, cars, etc. Love is . Obviously, animals have certain attributes that are not found in humans, and lust for these attributes "makes" us zoos. But at the same time, . I think that, since humans consider ourselves conscious and self-aware, we shouldn't be at the mercy of our biology and our emotions. We should instead apply our ability of critical thinking on the topic at hand: the morality zoophilia!
The interpretation of the kind love that exists in any relation between two beings can arise independently of each other. And whether there's an agreement or a discrepancy, we humans have the ability to clearly communicate our emotions and discuss them. With animals though, it's a bit more complicated. Let's stick to dogs as a substitute for the word "animals" It's hard to confidently state the general mood and the emotions of dogs sometimes. Understanding dogs in their entirety is even harder. Them understanding us is simply impossible. Any meaningful and well-informed discussion about the kind of love that you two share cannot be achieved. As such, assuming that you've figured out how your dog sees your relationship with you, you still aren't able to change it (not with discussion and reasoning at least) and you remain unable to express your own feelings. And as with every important aspect of your dog's life, your dog has very little input on his future and the choices you make for them, since they are unable to navigate our world even a little as effectively as we do. heir boundaries (sexual or not) are the ones that you set for yourself and for them.
Is your dog aware of this dynamic in your relationship? Probably no. Does it even matter in this discussion? If your dog thinks of you as their partner, then great! Or... not, depending on how you achieved ... And depending on what other people think of your means of achieving that. But should you care of other's opinions? Can any animal even understand what sex is? I know of human adults that don't. Have you questioned whether your partner understands the implications of your relationship? Or whether they perceive your bond as something... acceptable?... What if they thought of you as a parent, would you ? How could you know their thoughts? Does it matter? I know of many a dog that had offspring with their parents, so maybe it doesn't matter. What if you kill your dog? Would you go to hell? If not, nothing matters after all.
Around here we've reached a point where the discussion falls apart and becomes pointless. This entire ordeal about scrutinizing the morality of zoophilia is nonsensical everyone is freely able to apply their own ideologies and philosophies, thus justify or vilify zoophilia however they wish.In fact, most ethical dilemmas, social issues, philosophical questions, you name it, are mostly subjective rather than objective. They are personal beliefs that will likely never have any concrete scientific validity. Such beliefs can be in conflict with reasoning and invulnerable to any form of criticism. So, no matter how silly or idiotic they may seem to the opposition, they shouldn't be discarded or condemned, they should be discussed in a methodical and thoughtful manner. And even then, there's a chance that nothing fruitful will come out of such discussions.
Beliefs are to be shared with others, to be argued about, to be fought for; but respectfully. I notice a lack of respect in zoophilia-related discussions on both sides of the argument. "Normies" are unwilling to "view the other side of the argument" But so are zoos, they fail to see that many people are unable, not unwilling, to understand their arguments. People "fail" to see animals as beings with a capacity to think, feel and communicate (among other things), but that's a belief that rarely occurs due to malice. For example, people that love pets in the way that they would love their toddler will rightfully find zoophilia disgusting. But can it be argued by zoos that this expresion of love towards animals is wrong? Obviously not. So zoos end up trying to impose their world view on others while trying to morally justify their own feelings. That's like trying to advocate for the legality of homosexuality in the 70s by "turning" everyone gay. In order to explain and justify their world view, zoos fail to understand that there is no such explanation needed if only they communicated that they believe that a right has been infringed.
When a majority believes that they are missing certain rights, they rebel. When a minority believes as such, they advocate for their rights. Whenever any group of people advocate for their rights, they are responsible to convey their message clearly. As citizens of democratic nations, we have a moral responsibility, not a right, to express our individual beliefs.
What right are we, zoophiles, advocating for? First and foremost, zoos are not a group of people, we are a disarray of individuals and communities that all hold massively conflicting opinions about zoophilia. Why is that? I believe that the "criminalization" of bestiality is to blame. Simply put, the entire spectrum of what can be considered a "zoophile" is unlawful, but only once in a full moon and in serious cases does the justice system bother doing anything. Because of the lack of competent enforcement, the average zoo is usually more similar to a pedophile that doesn't have access to children, at least in people's minds. Also, there hasn't been any major effort done by zoos that has actually made the average person understand the average "us" In fact, I gather that there seems to be a general disinterest and apathy from the general population about the subject of zoophilia. In my opinion, it would actually be better if there were some people actively opposing zoosexuality, so that, at the very least, discussions would arise about the subject. I truly believe that some of our arguments are of considerable value, thus these people would be made aware and possibly understand our beliefs.
Secondly, what advocating for? What belief o we hold? What is our "message"? To be legally allowed to have sex with animals as long as we are ZETA? To be able to have romantic relationships with animals when they show signs of consent? To have the right to do whatever we please with our pets under the condition that it doesn't harm them physically or emotionally? If we are advocating for any one of these "rights" then I give up (I haven't even done anything). These "rights" are full of logical fallacies and loopholes because they lack clear definitions. These "rights" cannot be reasonably enforced, thus no positive change could ever come out of this. These "rights" will certainly cause harm to countless more souls, simply because existing malefactors that harm animals for their sgratification will be left unrestricted. These "rights" can only magnify the existing human-animal inequalities while degrading both - humans and animals. These "rights" will get rid of more of th rights that animals have.
I love animals, and since you probably also do, I believe that we, zoophiles, should be thoughtful, considerate, explicit and united about what we are fighting for. We are wrongly copying the great activists of last century's social movements that fought for all kinds of human rights. Key word, "human" rights. In our case, it's not about our rights, it's about our beloved animals'. We don't even understand the point we are trying to make. Like, wtf. That's why no one takes us seriously.
We are demanding to be given a right that will harm animals even more instead of fixing the systematic torture that we inflict to nature, while calling ourselves "animal lovers" We don't want to make such a grave error due to negligent rushing, right? Why are we even looking to legitimize our sexuality?
The main reason is societal integration. But we can achieve that without making bestiality legal. Talk to people that you know will understand you, like here! Make people around you understand your situation and have discussions with them about it. Forming close relationships with people is hard, but you must definitely have someone to talk to about burning matters, like zoophilia.
I love animals, and since you probably also do, I believe that we, humans, should first focus on giving rights to animals. We could abolish slaughterhouses, for one. Illegal deforestation, illegal hunting and illegal ownership of exotics should all be actually enforced. The big economic barrier for medical care of pets is another problem that infringes upon animal rights. Et cetera.
I love animals, and I would try my best to give them fun, interesting, pleasurable, unique experiences - if I didn't spend half of my time on the internet and the other half contemplating existential questions.
I love animals and, as such, I attempt to help strays. I believe in their right to be given a chance to live.
I a stray dog that I adopted. And I love her. I've never had an animal of my own before. . But that choos her purpose of existence on this godforsaken planet...
What is her purpose? Should she be an honest hard working couch potato? Should she try to learn tricks and words and be a showman? Should she bring her happiness to people in need? Should she be a mother? Should she be craving walks and exploration? In need for hugs and kisses? In search of sexual pleasure? She definitely do these things, and more, and I help her learn all those. But she only hashopefully15 years left alive, not enough time to do a lot.
I know that the word "purpose" carries different meanings and emotions for everyone, but in this instance I'm talking about the purpose of one's life. And from my experience, the purpose that anyone has set for their life makes sense only in their own head. As such, the source of this purpose is contained exclusively within oneself. Wherever you might search, purpose cannot be given to you nor be forced in you by anyone, not by religion, not by science or politics, or by money, by society, by your friends and family, by your pets. The spirit in you that is filled with purpose is, well, within you, guided by you. You are the only one that can truly "bestow" a purpose upon yourself.
Now, finally, the reason that I conceived this post in the beginning. I was outside with her for a walk and I was trying to teach her a few basic instructions. "Come here!", "Stop!" and "Sit!", all with varying degrees of success. And I noticed a few behaviors that were obviously hereditary, genetically driven to some extent. And I thought about my hereditary behaviors. And, in the end, I thought about the purpose of them; they serve nature's and life's purpose: to survive, perpetuate. That's the direction that nature tries to guide our purpose, towards reproduction.
Religion bestows us the purpose to serve God. Science bestows us the purpose to serve knowledge and objectivity. Democracy bestows us the purpose to help society. Society is curreny messed up, we don't talk about that stuff. Capitalism forces us to seek financial growth. Arts. Arts speak about all kinds of purposes. We can find great stories that speak of triumph, of sacrifice, of unequivocal love, of philosophical pondering and many other forms of purpose. Arts transmitted by all kinds of mediums, showcasing the incredible creative ability that we possess My family and friends gave me the freedom and ability to do whatever I wish. I also gave myself that freedom.
She gave me the purpose to give her a great life, and I want to fullfill that purpose. But what is her purpose?
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What purpose do I choose for myself?
Article written by Theory Of Disambiguation (March 2025)
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